Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both)

Post new topic   Reply to topic

Go down

Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both) Empty Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both)

Post  katerose on Fri 24 Apr 2020, 10:48 am

Hi, I just got a new drawing tablet it is an XP-Pen Deco 01 V2. I am working on a samsung which has its own pen (this works fine with Expresii) but it is really awkward. So when I move the pen around without pushing any buttons it will paint but not register tilt/pressure. If I hold down the right bottom button on the pen which is keyed to right click then it registers tilt but not pressure. I have played with settings but am not having much luck. Any advice would be most welcome. Kate

katerose

Posts : 1
Join date : 2019-04-12

Back to top Go down

Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both) Empty Re: Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both)

Post  Admin on Fri 24 Apr 2020, 11:35 am

An XP-Pen device probably would have wintab32.dll installed by its driver. Using vendor supplied wintab32.dll usually fixes wired behavior when using that particular stylus. So, I recommend switching to vendor supplied wintab32 by UNCEHCKING "Windows Ink" inside Expresii when using that XP-Pen stylus:
Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both) Untitl20
Admin
Admin
Admin

Posts : 741
Join date : 2012-12-31

https://expresii.forumotion.net

Back to top Go down

Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both) Empty Re: Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both)

Post  nezuka87 on Tue 28 Apr 2020, 10:36 pm

Similar issue. Got XP-Pen Artist 22E Pro. Expresii captures the pressure fine, but doesn't capture the tilt of my pen. Unchecking Windows Ink leads to the program crashing when pen is used.

Error message:

Access violation at address 00007FF9D963217E in module 'Wintab32.dll'. Read of address 0000001730071434

nezuka87
Guest


Back to top Go down

Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both) Empty Re: Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both)

Post  Admin on Wed 29 Apr 2020, 12:41 am

Thanks for your report.   Have you tried toggling "Windows Ink" in XP Pen's driver too?  See he needed to check "Windows Ink" in XP Pen's driver in order to have pressure in Photoshop: https://youtu.be/I2XNiqplyZE?t=769
Admin
Admin
Admin

Posts : 741
Join date : 2012-12-31

https://expresii.forumotion.net

Back to top Go down

Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both) Empty Re: Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both)

Post  nezuka87 on Wed 29 Apr 2020, 6:43 am

I did. Checking Windows Ink inside XP-Pen driver settings doesn't solve the issue, whereas leaving it unchecked leads to Expresii failing to recognize pen input altogether.

nezuka87

Posts : 2
Join date : 2020-04-29

Back to top Go down

Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both) Empty Re: Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both)

Post  Admin on Wed 29 Apr 2020, 6:29 pm

I just ordered an XP-Pen device with tilt. I'll get back to you when I get the device. Thanks for your patience.
Admin
Admin
Admin

Posts : 741
Join date : 2012-12-31

https://expresii.forumotion.net

Back to top Go down

Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both) Empty Re: Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both)

Post  Admin on Thu 07 May 2020, 12:49 pm

So, I got not one but two XP-Pen/Ugee devices: Dec Pro small and Artist 12 Pro.  Short answer: they work fine with pressure and tilt using Windows Ink option. They indeed will trigger error from Wintab32.dll using switching to the vendor wintab32.dll. This could be due to XP-Pen/Ugee's wintab32.dll implementation, as other vendor's like Huion or Wacom do not give error like that.  I'll see if I can find a way to get around that.

FYI, I do get some strange behavior when I first plug the pen display in: in short moments the pen gave a pressure reading of 1024 when I was actually not pressing at all. However, after installing the XP-Pen driver no such wrong reading is encountered. I just uninstalled the driver, but haven't seen such wrong pressure reading again so far.

I just tried Deco Pro on Surface book 2, which also has its own built-in digitizer. The Dec Pro works fine using Windows Ink under Windows 10, without installing any driver.  

FYI, Kate, when using a mouse, right-mouse-button-drag is used for adjusting the brush tilt, so your situation of
"So when I move the pen around without pushing any buttons it will paint but not register tilt/pressure. If I hold down the right bottom button on the pen which is keyed to right click then it registers tilt but not pressure"
sounded a bit like your pen is recognized as a mouse. Still no clue why it happens like that for you, since the Deco 01 v2 is a pretty new product, and I believe it should work as straightforward as the recent devices I've got in hand.

Anyway, FYI, you can see the stylus readings in the Diagnostics page:

and see if you discover anything.

And with new version 2020.05.05, you can also show a stylus data stream:
Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both) C410

nezuka87, are you sure your device supports tilt? I just checked and this page:
https://www.xp-pen.com/product/63.html
seems to suggest the Artist Display 22E Pro doesn't supports tilt sensing.


Last edited by Admin on Mon 11 May 2020, 8:50 am; edited 3 times in total
Admin
Admin
Admin

Posts : 741
Join date : 2012-12-31

https://expresii.forumotion.net

Back to top Go down

Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both) Empty Re: Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both)

Post  Admin on Fri 08 May 2020, 9:57 am

So FYI, using it more, I think the pen that comes with my new Artist 12 Pro is defective. Symptoms include: 1. ghost clicks, 2. unable to be sensed near screen edge, 3. keep toggling to eraser when I'm not press any of the buttons, 4. sudden high pressure reading (that one I mentioned earlier here). Using the pen that comes with the Dec Pro on the Artist 12 Pro doesn't have those issues, so I come to the conclusion the pen that came with the Artist 12 Pro is defective.

XP-Pen's are not bad when they work the way they're supposed to, but their quality assurance seems not that great.
Admin
Admin
Admin

Posts : 741
Join date : 2012-12-31

https://expresii.forumotion.net

Back to top Go down

Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both) Empty Re: Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both)

Post  Admin on Sat 09 May 2020, 9:35 pm

We encountered all sort of issues with the XP-Pen like ghost clicks, not working near screen edges and ghost eraser toggling, but somehow we got them fixed:
Admin
Admin
Admin

Posts : 741
Join date : 2012-12-31

https://expresii.forumotion.net

Back to top Go down

Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both) Empty Re: Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both)

Post  nezuka87 on Sun 10 May 2020, 6:26 pm

Yep, of course, Artist 22E Pro supports tilt. The pen works fine and provides tilt in all other applications, including Photoshop, SAI and Clip Studio EX. I got no problems with these applications recognizing pen tilt and rotations. My pen is definitely no defective and I don't get any odd behaviour like ghost clicks or pen/eraser mode switching.

I checked the diagnostics window. Somehow it seems that Expressii perpetually reads the same tilt angle between 43 and 48 degrees. When the pen is passive, it reads 43 degrees. When I'm making a stroke, the tilt fluctuates between 43 and ~47.

Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both) Passiv11

Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both) Clicki10

nezuka87

Posts : 2
Join date : 2020-04-29

Back to top Go down

Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both) Empty Re: Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both)

Post  Admin on Sun 10 May 2020, 6:41 pm

Thanks for your more info nezuka87. That's strange, since Expresii just reads and shows there the Tilt-X and Til-Y data from Windows' API when you choose Windows Ink.  

Sorry, but I really have no idea why it happens like that for you. Rolling Eyes

I dunno, maybe you have a model of XP-Pen Artist 22E Pro different from this one reviewed in 2018, as this guy says there's no tilt sensitivity there: https://youtu.be/aO8b0JpSYlA?t=430
Admin
Admin
Admin

Posts : 741
Join date : 2012-12-31

https://expresii.forumotion.net

Back to top Go down

Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both) Empty Re: Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both)

Post  Admin on Thu 14 May 2020, 12:19 pm

FYI, just uploaded Expresii version 2020.05.14. This version should have fixed the fatal error you encountered when you switch to using wintab32.dll of XP-Pen. However, you probably need to restart Expresii for the wintab32.dll to load properly.
Admin
Admin
Admin

Posts : 741
Join date : 2012-12-31

https://expresii.forumotion.net

Back to top Go down

Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both) Empty Re: Use of XP-PEN (registering either tilt or location but not both)

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top


Post new topic   Reply to topic
 
Permissions in this forum:
You can reply to topics in this forum